Welcome to the EDDF Triangle Area
This page is for those, who want to exercise "Controlled Flying" inside
the standard FlightGear environment.
Since mid 2010 there is established a regular ATC-service at EDDF
each week Wednesday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday from 20:00 to 24:00 CET/MEZ
(in UTC that is: in summer 18-22, in winter 19-23)
Some nearby locations usually join in, so you can exercise flying from one airport to the next under constant ATC-control (if the airports are not more than 200 mi apart!).
Please find in the following some informations to that:
There exists no real coordinated "EDDF-Triangle" action any more, because many ATC's got bored waiting many hours for customers. But EDDK/EDDL, EDDH, EBBR,are still very active. In addition EDDM, EDDN, EGLL/EGKK, EHAM, LIML, LFPK, LKPR are often available.
As a pilot you may check for active ATCs by e.g.:
If you are interested in more well developped airports worth to visit, see:
You also may be intrested to review how your perfomance among all other visitors lokked like -
as well on radar as in the air as in using the radio. You can find filmes to all EDDF-events next day on:
Participants / Customers:
Any pilot flying a full operational model-airplane under the FlightGear
environment in MultiPlayer mode is welcome.
As a minimum skill we expect from you:
- Be able to control your airplane manually! You may use your
autopilot -- but you may NOT use that as an excuse for mishaps!
- Also you should be able to
- maintain a coordinated altitude, heading, airspeed
- ascend/descent and turn accordingly
- make decent landings (yes:
You should also be able to start,
and yes we had visitors that could not!)
- And most important:
You must be able and willing to communicate with the ATC, either on
- You do not have to talk a perfect English but you should be able
to contact ATC and define a basic request, like
ELLX inbound (pls French)" indicating you are inbound ELLX and would appreciate advises in French!
- "yourID EDDK ready to taxi, dest. ELLX" = you are on the
airport EDDK and would like to depart to ELLX
- "yourID anybody able to help in (your language)" = a cry
for help, also indicating what language you need help in (if not
- ATC will then send his advises to you in multilingual (if
available). Pls answer at least with a minimum of e.g.: "yourID rgr
d3000 " for e.g. "ok, descending to 3000"
- also see the possibilities when just typing a "-"
and then selecting from the red listing! We know that takes some
training and is often not usable because it might predefine a different
location as the one you want to talk to. But on ground on an airport it
should be ok!
- If you start-up on an ATC-controlled airport, PLEASE
DO NOT START ON RUNWAYS !!
- For EDDF you can select ParkingLots out of the FGrun/Wizard
(below the runways there are listed the ParkingLots!)
- If you cannot start at a Gate, then pls start your session
- with MultiPlayer disabled
- then taxi to a Gate of your choice
- at the Gate enable the MultiPlayer: Menue -> Multiplayer -> Multiplayer Settings -> Connect !!!
- otherwise have
a look into http://wiki.flightgear.org/Initial_Starting_Positions,
that defines how you can place yourself onto any wanted place at
earth, also onto a "private parking lot"!
- If you do not want to figure out your own "VIP-parkinglot"
you may use the following data to start at:
- ELLX: "--lon=6.215111 --lat=49.631679 --heading=240"
- EDDK: "--lon=7.120986 --lat=50.882758 --heading=220"
- EDDS: "--lon=9.193089 --lat=48.688680 --heading=340"
- EDDF: "--lon=8.570323 --lat=50.032170 --heading=070"
- If you use a "Startup-Command-File" to start FlightGear
direct: Replace the "--airport=xyz" option with the above options
- otherwise input them into the "Advanced --> Initial
Position" in your FGrun/Wizard.
- (Of course
this may result in a pile-up of those using these figures - but that
does not affect ATC nor the active traffic! It is your choice to define
your own spot! -- and/or taxi away quickly!)
- start at another airport nearby (but please at least 20 nm
outside the wanted airport, to help ATC in identifying and controlling
you prior arriving at the controlled location)
- if you are not able to follow the above:
- Start on the smallest (not used) runway
- taxi off that runway at once (without crashing into other
- and report in to ATC for advise!
usually means a long taxiway first - and if you take off from there
against ATC's direct advise, I promise you will be "NEGLECTED" at once!!
- For this (least wanted option) you may use:
- for EDDF rw 36
- for EDDK rw 14R
- otherwise none available!!!
You should know the following abbreviations: VFR-IFR, VOR-ILS, AP-manual
(compare: "http://www.emmerich-j.de/HB/EN/RNAV" or "http://www.emmerich-j.de/HB/DE/RNAV"
- VFR-IFR both simply define rules (not techniques!) by which you fly
(see e.g. "http://www.stephan-schwab.com/airtravel/vfr-ifr.html" for details)
--> In our EDDF-triangle events you generally are always IFR - because you should want to be controlled by ATC!
- VFR generally means that you fly by Visual FlightRules - i.e. normal fun-flying by which you must stay out of Clouds, independent of using instruments or not!
- IFR does not have that restriction - but requires that you file a FlightPlan and stay under constant ATC-control.
- VOR-ILS are RADIO-Navigation equipments that let you fly distinct directions.
- VOR sends out a rotating radio beacon - from which you can select a radial on that you want to fly to or from that VOR-station.
- ILS is technically the same as the VOR - but sends only one radial (the runway heading) and often adds to that horizontal radial a vertical beam indicating the standard GlideSlope to that runway.
- ADF-NDB also belong to those Radio-Navigation tools - but are more difficult to use and not that exact. (See the above manual for more infos)
- AP-manual just states if you use the AutoPilot or not (independent of using VFR/IFR!)
- You may have the same instruments in your plane and may use them or not! The only difference is: When switching to "AP" the instrument-signals are sent to your Autopilot and interpreted by it - while without AP (=manual) you have to interpret the needles in that instruments yourself and navigate accordingly!
And be sure: Flying "manual" you must be able to do always - the often heard "sorry - the AP did do wrong" is NO EXCUSE! In that case You must be able to fly manually or switch to AP-2! No court will sentence an AP - it will always be the pilot that is charged with killing hundredth of people!